Comments on: If only Picard had visited the Asian Art Museum http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/ Blogging Asian Art and Culture Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:25:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sharky http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11832 sharky Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:46:13 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11832 Dany, Gary Soup You're both right! I was referring to the fact that they were showing Asian Artifacts in that episode, ofcourse if they wanted to give a really commercial origin, they would have used the Ming Dynasty name, to use the Song Dynasty was to show that they shied away from the commercial to the well-known. Who knows-maybe in forty years the captain of the Current Star Trek show (and "yes", I do believe there will be Trek in one form or another even then),will produce an artifact and will give its "ACTUAL place of origin! One can hope! LLAP Dany, Gary Soup
You’re both right! I was referring to the fact that they were showing Asian Artifacts in that episode, ofcourse if they wanted to give a really commercial origin, they would have used the Ming Dynasty name, to use the Song Dynasty was to show that they shied away from the commercial to the well-known. Who knows-maybe in forty years the captain of the Current Star Trek show (and “yes”, I do believe there will be Trek in one form or another even then),will produce an artifact and will give its “ACTUAL place of origin! One can hope! LLAP

]]> By: Dany http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11819 Dany Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:58:50 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11819 Actually, here is the <a href="http://67.52.109.59:8080/emuseum/view/objects/asitem/search$0040/0?t:state:flow=7f0dc197-c645-4ebe-836d-2a374e4fee0d" rel="nofollow">Tang dancer.</a> Actually, here is the Tang dancer.

]]> By: Gary Soup http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11815 Gary Soup Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:15:42 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11815 I think you are right about the Ming Dynasty being the most well known by name, since "Ming vase" has long been a cliche for something valuable and cultured. The Tang probably deserves to be the best known, for poetry as well as visual arts. I think you are right about the Ming Dynasty being the most well known by name, since “Ming vase” has long been a cliche for something valuable and cultured. The Tang probably deserves to be the best known, for poetry as well as visual arts.

]]> By: Dany http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11813 Dany Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:47:14 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11813 sharky, you've given me a revelation! I thought the dynasty that is most well-known in popular imagination was the Ming dynasty (1368-1644); didn't think it was the Song...I should do a poll. I do love the episode "Parallels", btw. sharky, you’ve given me a revelation! I thought the dynasty that is most well-known in popular imagination was the Ming dynasty (1368-1644); didn’t think it was the Song…I should do a poll.

I do love the episode “Parallels”, btw.

]]> By: sharky http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11692 sharky Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:28:54 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11692 As sfmike said it very well could disrupt or even destroy the space/time continuum, much like the episode "Parallels", where the barriers between realities broke down filling the sector with 85,000 different versions of the Enterprise! Also Picard cannot go back because since Kirk's time The Federation created the Temporal Investigations Department. (FYI: Kirk has the biggest file in their office-17 Temporal Violations!) However to try and answer why such a obvious mistake was made was not due to their lack of expertise, it was due to popular culture. I am a novice when it comes to asian art, (I know a little and am learning) but even someone with a limited knowledge has heard of the Song dynasty, I have not until recently heard of the Tang Dynasty. While it may have made some become curious and look up the Tang Dynasty. (Mr. Spock made a comment in Star Trek VI that made me search for a dictionary and add the words to my vocabulary) however it was most likely easier for them to reference a Dynasty that has had more commercial exposure. As sfmike said it very well could disrupt or even destroy the space/time continuum, much like the episode “Parallels”, where the barriers between realities broke down filling the sector with 85,000 different versions of the Enterprise! Also Picard cannot go back because since Kirk’s time The Federation created the Temporal Investigations Department. (FYI: Kirk has the biggest file in their office-17 Temporal Violations!) However to try and answer why such a obvious mistake was made was not due to their lack of expertise, it was due to popular culture. I am a novice when it comes to asian art, (I know a little and am learning) but even someone with a limited knowledge has heard of the Song dynasty, I have not until recently heard of the Tang Dynasty. While it may have made some become curious and look up the Tang Dynasty. (Mr. Spock made a comment in Star Trek VI that made me search for a dictionary and add the words to my vocabulary) however it was most likely easier for them to reference a Dynasty that has had more commercial exposure.

]]> By: Nancy http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11634 Nancy Sat, 03 Jul 2010 20:02:58 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11634 Why am I not surprised? There are master's theses written on Buffy so why not Star Trek? I seriously covet that horse and if your museum store has a reproduction, it will be mine! Seriously, I love Tang ceramics -- aren't the exquisite dancing women on display on the 3rd floor (?), Tang? Why am I not surprised? There are master’s theses written on Buffy so why not Star Trek?

I seriously covet that horse and if your museum store has a reproduction, it will be mine! Seriously, I love Tang ceramics — aren’t the exquisite dancing women on display on the 3rd floor (?), Tang?

]]> By: nico http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11631 nico Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:32:09 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11631 It is the stuff of master's theses: http://www.newstatesman.com/199905310035 It is the stuff of master’s theses: http://www.newstatesman.com/199905310035

]]> By: Nancy http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11618 Nancy Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:19:56 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11618 But didn't Shatner and Nimoy go back in time in one of the movies? If they can do it, so can Picard! Who know that you could find references to Chinese art in Star Trek? But didn’t Shatner and Nimoy go back in time in one of the movies? If they can do it, so can Picard! Who know that you could find references to Chinese art in Star Trek?

]]> By: sfmike http://www.asianart.org/blog/index.php/2010/07/02/if-only-picard-had-visited-the-asian-art-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-11616 sfmike Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:04:05 +0000 http://www.asianart.org/blog/?p=2771#comment-11616 Their visiting would probably have violated the space/time continuum. Their visiting would probably have violated the space/time continuum.

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